diff --git a/meta/classes/python_pep517.bbclass b/meta/classes/python_pep517.bbclass
index 756333bcf2..ac7c1e44c6 100644
--- a/meta/classes/python_pep517.bbclass
+++ b/meta/classes/python_pep517.bbclass
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 # Common infrastructure for Python packages that use PEP-517 compliant packaging.
 # https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0517/
 
-DEPENDS:append = " python3-pip-native"
+DEPENDS:append = " python3-installer-native"
 
 # Where to execute the build process from
 PEP517_SOURCE_PATH ?= "${S}"
@@ -11,19 +11,11 @@ PEP517_SOURCE_PATH ?= "${S}"
 # a recipe wants to install prebuilt wheels.
 PEP517_WHEEL_PATH ?= "${WORKDIR}/dist"
 
-PIP_INSTALL_ARGS = "\
-    -vvvv \
-    --ignore-installed \
-    --no-cache \
-    --no-deps \
-    --no-index \
-    --root=${D} \
-    --prefix=${prefix} \
-"
-
 PEP517_INSTALL_PYTHON = "python3"
 PEP517_INSTALL_PYTHON:class-native = "nativepython3"
 
+INSTALL_WHEEL_COMPILE_BYTECODE ?= "--compile-bytecode=0"
+
 python_pep517_do_install () {
     COUNT=$(find ${PEP517_WHEEL_PATH} -name '*.whl' | wc -l)
     if test $COUNT -eq 0; then
@@ -32,18 +24,7 @@ python_pep517_do_install () {
         bbfatal More than one wheel found in ${PEP517_WHEEL_PATH}, this should not happen
     fi
 
-    nativepython3 -m pip install ${PIP_INSTALL_ARGS} ${PEP517_WHEEL_PATH}/*.whl
-
-    cd ${D}
-    for i in ${D}${bindir}/* ${D}${sbindir}/*; do
-        if [ -f "$i" ]; then
-            sed -i -e "1s,#!.*nativepython3,#!${USRBINPATH}/env ${PEP517_INSTALL_PYTHON}," $i
-            sed -i -e "s:${PYTHON}:${USRBINPATH}/env\ ${PEP517_INSTALL_PYTHON}:g" $i
-            sed -i -e "s:${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}:${bindir}:g" $i
-            # Not everything we find may be Python, so ignore errors
-            nativepython3 -mpy_compile $(realpath --relative-to=${D} $i) || true
-        fi
-    done
+    nativepython3 -m installer ${INSTALL_WHEEL_COMPILE_BYTECODE} --interpreter "${USRBINPATH}/env ${PEP517_INSTALL_PYTHON}" --destdir=${D} ${PEP517_WHEEL_PATH}/*.whl
 }
 
 # A manual do_install that just uses unzip for bootstrapping purposes. Callers should DEPEND on unzip-native.
diff --git a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-flit-core_3.7.1.bb b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-flit-core_3.7.1.bb
index b12b8e42d7..dc815acf08 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-flit-core_3.7.1.bb
+++ b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-flit-core_3.7.1.bb
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ SRC_URI[sha256sum] = "3c9bd9c140515bfe62dd938c6610d10d6efb9e35cc647fc614fe5fb3a5
 inherit pypi flit_core
 
 # Need to install by hand as there's a dependency loop
-DEPENDS:remove:class-native = " python3-pip-native"
+DEPENDS:remove:class-native = " python3-installer-native"
 DEPENDS:append:class-native = " unzip-native"
 
 # We need the full flit tarball
diff --git a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-pip_22.0.3.bb b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-pip_22.0.3.bb
index bfeeee789c..9ca8fbc1e5 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-pip_22.0.3.bb
+++ b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-pip_22.0.3.bb
@@ -6,43 +6,14 @@ LIC_FILES_CHKSUM = "file://LICENSE.txt;md5=63ec52baf95163b597008bb46db68030"
 
 inherit pypi setuptools_build_meta
 
-DEPENDS += "python3"
-
-# To avoid a dependency loop; we bootstrap -native
-DEPENDS:remove:class-native = "python3-pip-native"
-DEPENDS:append:class-native = " unzip-native"
-
 SRC_URI += "file://0001-change-shebang-to-python3.patch"
 SRC_URI += "file://no_shebang_mangling.patch"
 SRC_URI += "file://reproducible.patch"
 
 SRC_URI[sha256sum] = "f29d589df8c8ab99c060e68ad294c4a9ed896624f6368c5349d70aa581b333d0"
 
-do_install:class-native() {
-    python_pep517_do_bootstrap_install
-
-    # pip install would normally generate [console_scripts] in ${bindir}
-    install -d ${D}/${bindir}
-    # We will skip the ${bindir}/pip variant as we would just remove it in the do_install:append
-    cat << EOF >> ${D}/${bindir}/pip3 | tee ${D}/${bindir}/pip${PYTHON_BASEVERSION}
-#!/bin/sh
-'''exec' ${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/${PYTHON_PN}-native/${PYTHON_PN} "\$0" "\$@"
-' '''
-# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
-import re
-import sys
-from pip._internal.cli.main import main
-if __name__ == '__main__':
-    sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0])
-    sys.exit(main())
-EOF
-    chmod 0755 ${D}${bindir}/pip3 ${D}${bindir}/pip${PYTHON_BASEVERSION}
-}
-
 do_install:append() {
-    if [ -e ${D}/${bindir}/pip ]; then
-        rm ${D}/${bindir}/pip
-    fi
+    rm -f ${D}/${bindir}/pip
 }
 
 RDEPENDS:${PN} = "\
@@ -59,3 +30,7 @@ RDEPENDS:${PN} = "\
 "
 
 BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk"
+
+# This used to use the bootstrap install which didn't compile. Until we bump the
+# tmpdir version we can't compile the native otherwise the sysroot unpack fails
+INSTALL_WHEEL_COMPILE_BYTECODE:class-native = "--no-compile-bytecode"
diff --git a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-setuptools_59.5.0.bb b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-setuptools_59.5.0.bb
index d93972b9a0..35bec19e33 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-setuptools_59.5.0.bb
+++ b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-setuptools_59.5.0.bb
@@ -17,14 +17,6 @@ SRC_URI[sha256sum] = "d144f85102f999444d06f9c0e8c737fd0194f10f2f7e5fdb77573f6e2f
 
 DEPENDS += "${PYTHON_PN}"
 
-# Avoid dependency loop; we bootstrap -native
-DEPENDS:remove:class-native = "python3-pip-native python3-setuptools-native"
-DEPENDS:append:class-native = " unzip-native"
-
-do_install:class-native() {
-    python_pep517_do_bootstrap_install
-}
-
 RDEPENDS:${PN} = "\
     ${PYTHON_PN}-2to3 \
     ${PYTHON_PN}-compile \
@@ -59,3 +51,7 @@ RDEPENDS:${PYTHON_PN}-pkg-resources = "\
     ${PYTHON_PN}-plistlib \
     ${PYTHON_PN}-pprint \
 "
+
+# This used to use the bootstrap install which didn't compile. Until we bump the
+# tmpdir version we can't compile the native otherwise the sysroot unpack fails
+INSTALL_WHEEL_COMPILE_BYTECODE:class-native = "--no-compile-bytecode"
diff --git a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-wheel_0.37.1.bb b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-wheel_0.37.1.bb
index a339e65824..efd6c2f968 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-wheel_0.37.1.bb
+++ b/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-wheel_0.37.1.bb
@@ -10,26 +10,8 @@ inherit flit_core pypi
 
 SRC_URI += " file://0001-Backport-pyproject.toml-from-flit-backend-branch.patch"
 
-DEPENDS:remove:class-native = "python3-pip-native"
-
-do_install:class-native () {
-    python_pep517_do_bootstrap_install
-
-    # pip install would normally generate [project.scripts] in ${bindir}
-    install -d ${D}/${bindir}
-    cat << EOF >> ${D}/${bindir}/wheel
-#!/bin/sh
-'''exec' ${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/${PYTHON_PN}-native/${PYTHON_PN} "\$0" "\$@"
-' '''
-# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
-import re
-import sys
-from wheel.cli import main
-if __name__ == '__main__':
-    sys.argv[0] = re.sub(r'(-script\.pyw|\.exe)?$', '', sys.argv[0])
-    sys.exit(main())
-EOF
-    chmod 0755 ${D}${bindir}/wheel
-}
-
 BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk"
+
+# This used to use the bootstrap install which didn't compile. Until we bump the
+# tmpdir version we can't compile the native otherwise the sysroot unpack fails
+INSTALL_WHEEL_COMPILE_BYTECODE:class-native = "--no-compile-bytecode"